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Welcome free thinkers :)))   Chat subject: Fabulous uses of Brown's Gas, including HyZor   ****************************************************

13:51:01 [george] Hi fellas

13:52:07 [george] Are you guys interested in Brown's Gas?

13:52:52 [wmbusch] Very much

13:53:04 [john] yes what is the latest news?

13:53:16 [george] Do you have questions?

13:54:06 [wmbusch] What is the latest news?

13:55:40 [george] listener is here with me and will answer regular questions. I'll answer technical questions

13:56:01 [listener] Latest news on Eagle-Research Brown's Gas!!! We're releasing the new ER1200 at the end of April 2002!!! Retail: $3,500 US

13:57:25 [george] What technical questions can I answer?

13:58:58 [listener] ER1200 Design is new; lighter weight; just as efficient and at a price that melts the competition.

13:59:56 [george] I can talk randomly about the Brown's Gas technology, but would prefer to help your understanding.

14:00:30 [george] Is everyone aware of what Brown's Gas Is?

14:01:47 [george] Brown's Gas is THE mixture of gasses that are generated in an electrolyzer specifically designed to keep all the gasses together.

14:02:36 [john] Why is lye used instead of battery acid for electrolyzer

14:02:41 [george] The gas is generally a mixture of Hydrogen, Oxygen and water vapor.

14:03:48 [george] It seems possible that a portion of the hydrogen and oxygen could be mon-atomic

14:05:23 [george] It also seems possible that a portion of the water vapor could be 'electrically enhanced' to make a gasious form of water that is not steam. It will stay stable as a gas no matter the temperature.

14:06:42 [Lefty] Who will be producing the ER1200

14:06:51 [george] john, I have found that lye is about 5% more efficient than any other electrolyte I've tested so far, including battery acid (sulfuric acid).

14:08:28 [listener] Brown's Gas spinoff technology= Hyzor technology > can be used to replace up to 50% gasoline with water in combustion processess

14:08:34 [george] john, I have even tried mixing electrolytes like lye and sulfuric acid to make a 'neutral' electrolyte. It worked somewhat but was still not as efficient as straight lye.

14:10:09 [listener] Eagle-Research is in the final stages of negotiations with 2 manufacturers. Manufacturers will be represented at the Eagle-Research Leader of the Pack Brown's Gas conference: April 12 & 13 2002; Spokane, WA Stay in touch with https://eagle-research.org for info in the next couple of weeks

14:12:08 [george] Time for a vote: are you interested in talking about applications of Brown's Gas or how it is made?

14:12:36 [john] applications

14:12:59 [Lefty] What is the potential of repairing caste iron with BG

14:13:07 [george] John, do you have any specific applications in mind?

14:13:57 [john] hardsurfacing

14:15:31 [george] Lefty, welding cast iron is an excellent use of Brown's Gas. I use a cast iron rod (local welding supply) with NO flux and puddle weld the crack or break. For some reason, the resulting weld puts very little stress in the iron and I've even cooled my welds with WATER.

14:17:26 [Lefty] Caste iron repair seems to be an industrial application that doesn't seem to be addressed well by any other process.

14:18:18 [george] John, There is a man in Lacombe Alberta that built a Brown's Gas machine after reading my Brown's Gas Book 2. He has his own million dollar machine shop and has found several excellent uses for the BG flame. One use was a special hardsurfacing technique which has brought him literally

14:20:31 [george] John, to continue: truckloads of business. The problem was drill threads on the drill pipes in the oilfields. The threads need to flex because the pipes are constantly bending, yet be hard to prevent damage from dirt and gravel. It helps that BG prevents rust too.

14:21:45 [Lefty] Will the latest improvements relative to the ER1200 be published in manual form?

14:22:56 [george] Lefty, that is true. The nice thing about BG is that it is very precise and versatile. I think it can compete with and other known technique for welding cast iron.

14:25:54 [Lefty] A major problem in the after market auto industry is cracked heads. Has anyone tried BG to repair cracked heads for auto engines.

14:26:33 [george] John, the net result is that the Lacombe man has cornered the market for heat treatment of pipe threads because his treatment makes the pipes last twice as long as any previous technique.

14:27:01 [listener] Brown's Gas Book3 will contain latest electrolyzer developments up to and including ER1150. Manuals lag behind partly to maintain our competitive edge. (The competition is already reverse engineering Eagle technology) and because . . .

14:28:10 [listener] . . . (continue) when we're focused on new innovations we can't also be focused on writing and publishing the next book.

14:29:24 [george] Lefty, I have repaired cracked exhaust manifolds. I see no reason that BG couldn't be used to repair cracked heads. I don't specifically know of anyone who has done it. I can see problems, like the cracks may be hard to get to or may be in 'sensitive' spots.

14:30:36 [george] Lefty, to continue: still, I think, once one has practiced, that most head cracks could not only be repaired, but strengthened.

14:32:04 [george] John, do you have a particular hardsurfacing job in mind?

14:33:19 [john] Like heavy equipment and conveyer rollers

14:33:31 [george] Lefty, BG cuts cast iron well too, which can help in weld preparation

14:35:06 [Lefty] George, thanks for scheduling this time. I'll watch your site for future developments.

14:36:49 [george] John, I see no problem with that. The surfaces are large and (mostly) flat. The Lacombe man was working with small sharpedged surfaces. The BG puts the heat so precisely that it can roll (melt) an edge quickly. So practice is needed.

14:38:41 [george] One of the most interesting aspects of BG treatment of iron, is that the iron tends not to rust.

14:40:27 [george] Brown's Gas flame is 'cold'. It does not radiate much heat

14:41:04 [george] Yet Brown's Gas can melt through nearly any material on earth

14:41:46 [john] Can BG used to cut stainless?

14:42:11 [george] I think this is because BG actually 'carries' electricity and that electrical energy is put directly into the work.

14:42:34 [listener] NEW MANUAL: Release Feb. 12/02 : Water Injection

14:43:15 [george] John, It can melt through stainless, but the edges are rough and black. There are lots of better ways to cut stainless on the market.

14:43:52 [george] BG can braze stainless though, and that's tough to do with any other flame.

14:45:03 [john] Would BG work for cutting concrete roads?

14:45:09 [george] The BG flame is 'imploding' constantly, that's why it is so long and thin. It makes a tunnel in the air. It draws in smoke and burns it.

14:47:31 [george] John, It melts concrete very well, even wet concrete without popping, spitting or exploding. I have cut re-bar out of wet concrete.

14:48:40 [horsewing] I heard that Brown's Gas can neutralize radioactive waste???

14:49:34 [george] John (continue) BG also does not require any oxygen from the air, so can burn to any depth. The only problem is getting rid of the molten rock.

14:51:23 [Tenaj] 1 hour is just about up.

14:51:56 [Tenaj] NEXT CHAT: Sunday March 17 '02 > (Preparing to) Get more MPG

14:52:44 [george] horsewing, yes, BG has been extremely effective in neutralizing radioactive waste. I think it is because the electrical energy in the gas actually stabilizes the material on an atomic level, so it no longer needs to emit energy to stabilize itself.

14:54:00 [george] Thank you Tenaj, I look forward to seeing everyone at the next Chat. This Chat will be posted on the eagle-research website.

14:55:28 [Tenaj] REMINDER NEWS: Eagle-Research 'Leader of the Pack' Brown's Gas Conference: April 13 & 14 2002 > Spokane, WA &

14:56:22 [Robert] Is there a charge for the BG Conference in Spokane?

14:56:24 [george] I've been told that more people have arrived.

14:57:07 [george] Do you have any questions before I go (again)

14:57:19 [Robert] Yeah, I was going to be here earlier but a lot of things delayed me

14:58:10 [Robert] Is there a definite planned time for the next chat?

14:58:51 [george] Robert, NEXT CHAT: Sunday March 17 '02 > (Preparing to) Get more MPG

14:59:52 [Robert] OK, I am also interested in any new releases of manuals you have planned

14:59:58 [george] Robert, it seems that the actual time is an issue, which we will address more clearly

15:01:30 [george] Robert, I am planning to come out with 'Active Water Injection' next. It will teach people how to best add water to maximize gains, particularly with the HyZor.

15:03:20 [Robert] Sounds great! I have been interested in H20 injection since reading about it in the old Mother Earth News in the 1970's

15:04:22 [Robert] The theory behind it makes sense.

15:04:32 [george] We get people coming to this Chat from all over the world, so I think I'll give some example times on different continents, posted on the eagle-research Chat page

15:05:57 [george] Robert, There are a lot of different ways to use water as a fuel, a few of which I've listed in the 'Water as Fuel, Book 1'.

15:06:22 [Tenaj] Spokane BG conference fees: $100US by Feb 21/02; $135 by March 28/02; $175 at the door

15:06:39 [george] Then I've taken Brown's Gas as a 'water as fuel' and written the HyZor Manual.

15:07:52 [george] Now I'm putting out the book on actual water injection because once you've installed the HyZor, you can actually replace a portion (up to 50%) of your fuel with water.

15:08:08 [Robert] I was thinkning of water injection more as a way to increase octane rating and to remove carbon buildup. But to actually use it as fuel--GREAT!

15:09:25 [dave] would the conference be good to attend, for someone who is not very knowledgeable yet on your processes

15:09:37 [george] Yes, in heavier fuels, you can even replace more, like the Japanise replacing 90% of a heavy crude with water when using BG as a catalyst

15:11:09 [george] This replacing fuel with water technique works in both internal and external combustion (like furnaces)

15:11:30 [Robert] So BG acts as a catalyst to promote complete combustion of fuel and water?

15:12:04 [Tenaj] Dave: the BG conference in Spokane, WA (April) is of particular interest to BG enthusiasts who want to make money

15:13:09 [george] Yes, it has been known for decades that water enhances the combustion of fuel. And that Hydrogen alone enhances the combustion of fuel.

15:14:10 [Robert] George, what sort of costs could someone expect to build a BG generator?

15:14:21 [dave] Do you think it would be over a beginers head or or good place to start learning?

15:14:30 [george] The great thing is that BG enhances the combustion of fuel better than any previous catalyst and, because of it's unique form of water, actually allows water to replace fuel without losing HEAT or POWER

15:15:50 [john] What is the best application for BG?

15:15:52 [george] Robert, lots of people have now built them. I need to ask what size you'd like to build?

15:17:36 [Robert] My first thought is to use it for welding and preheating then to build a unit suitable for use on a vehicle engine

15:18:11 [george] John, there is no best because there are a LOT of ways to use this gas productively, saving industry billions of dollars per year. Personally, I'm targeting the steel cutting market first, simply because it is an application I'm famillier with.

15:18:37 [Tenaj] Dave: Have you already read through the Brown's Gas material on the Eagle site & http://www.watertorch.com and Brown's Gas book 1 & 2???

15:19:43 [Robert] George, how does cutting steel w/BG differ from using oxy-acetylene torches?

15:20:30 [george] Robert, good thoughts, however, I think of the torch as a torch, not a welder. Arc welders can generally weld better than flame. BG flame outperforms any other flame.

15:20:54 [Robert] I am familiar with using a standard torch to cut where the torch preheats the metal and then the O2 jet burns the hole through the metal

15:21:31 [dave] Tenaj: I have visited your site twice and have read the material that is online however I have not read any of the books yet, 11 years ago I visited a man in Iowa who was supplementing the fuel in his truck with hydrogen and that has kept my interest .

15:21:56 [george] Robert, A home built 3000 liter can be $1,000 to $4000. A HyZor can be $200 - $500.

15:23:00 [Robert] George, Is the HyZor unit for vehicle engine use?

15:24:24 [john] What is the next project after BG?

15:24:47 [george] Robert, a very long answer is needed, mostly covered in one of my last newsletters. For example the BG cuts 25% faster, using 30% less oxygen

15:26:08 [Tenaj] Dave: Hyzor technology is the manual you need fi your interest in Brown's Gas is to supplement fuel

15:26:19 [Tenaj] Time's up guys

15:26:45 [dave] Thank you!

15:27:02 [Robert] George, wow. That is a significant improvement!

15:27:26 [george] Guys, I really appreciate the interest and I look forward to seeing you all next time. I'll answer the questions I see on my screen right now, then I'm taking my lady out

15:27:43 [Robert] Thanks for your time. I will have to catch up on the news latters

15:27:52 [Tenaj] NEXT CHAT: Sunday March 17/02 EST > To ensure that more people arrive here when we're here we'll post the time according to London, England time on the Eagle site: https://eagle-research.org

15:28:49 [george] Yes Robert, the Brown's Gas torch operates the same way. In fact, we just replace the acetylene with BG.

15:29:43 [Tenaj] Have a great rest of Sunday everyone. Bye for now

15:29:54 [george] John, I'd love to build fuel-less electric cars and develope my Gravity power systems.

15:30:24 [john] Thanks for your time

15:30:44 [Robert] Thank yolu again for your time, George. Enjoy your time with your lady

15:30:48 [george] Robert, yes the HyZor is BG specifically for vehicle use.

15:31:07 [Tenaj] This chat will be posted on the eagle site with the 1st one: https://eagle-research.org/chat/chat.php

 

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